Anyone flying a Yuneec Tornado?

[giumick]

So has anyone else got any Yuneec products?

I must admit that im getting sick of the DJi philosophy of take the eyes out of everyone and offer no support. Our chroma drone was 300 quid and with a gopro matches most phantoms plus it has a 27 min flight time so it has tempted me to switch i must say.
Coming from R/C i dont need the whole super duper easy to use app and im seeing no benefits beyond it so far.

Does anyone have any experience with the better yuneec stuff then? I remember been told the tornado was good by our Pfaw trainer.

Cheers
Mick

 

[The Editor]

So has anyone else got any Yuneec products?

I must admit that im getting sick of the DJi philosophy of take the eyes out of everyone and offer no support. Our chroma drone was 300 quid and with a gopro matches most phantoms plus it has a 27 min flight time so it has tempted me to switch i must say.
Coming from R/C i dont need the whole super duper easy to use app and im seeing no benefits beyond it so far.

Does anyone have any experience with the better yuneec stuff then? I remember been told the tornado was good by our Pfaw trainer.

Cheers
Mick

Tumbleweed going by in the wind...........

Think you will get more response here....
Yuneec Drone Forum or click the link at the bottom of this page.

 

[giumick]

Tumbleweed going by in the wind...........

Think you will get more response here....
Yuneec Drone Forum or click the link at the bottom of this page.

Thanks Pal haha I will give it a go

 

[old curmudgeon]

So has anyone else got any Yuneec products?

Yes! I have a Yuneec H, beats the Inspire1 Pro hands down for a single operator shooting video of a moving object..

 

[The Editor]

Yes! I have a Yuneec H, beats the Inspire1 Pro hands down for a single operator shooting video of a moving object..

Except anything from the camera looks like it was shot on a potato.
If you think DJI's camera offerings are bad the Yuneec shoots at max 24mbps in Raw! Dreadful edge sharpness, non interchangeable lenses, poor WB tracking, dreadful stepped exposure tracking.
I believe I'm also correct in saying (correct me if I'm wrong) but the Yuneec platform offers no, peaking, zebras or histogram.
This renders it totally useless in any sort of even half professional environment.

 

[old curmudgeon]

Except anything from the camera looks like it was shot on a potato.
If you think DJI's camera offerings are bad the Yuneec shoots at max 24mbps in Raw! Dreadful edge sharpness, non interchangeable lenses, poor WB tracking, dreadful stepped exposure tracking.
I believe I'm also correct in saying (correct me if I'm wrong) but the Yuneec platform offers no, peaking, zebras or histogram.
This renders it totally useless in any sort of even half professional environment.

Yes, but most of us aren't professionals. Joe Bloggs in the street doesn't give a monkey's about bit rates and all the other paraphernalia that the 'professionals' go endlessly on about. All he/she sees is a reasonable picture or not.

The Yuneec H does have histogram and you can follow a moving object without trying to get a finger to move across a screen with the left hand whilst trying to control with the other hand.

As far as peeking is concerned, I'm still trying to find that in the Go App. Zebras? I'm not ready for an African safari as yet.

Think too many on here are addicted to DJI and Apple. Try others' offerings with an open mind, you may be surprised.

 

[EDDSkitz]

Yes, but most of us aren't professionals. Joe Bloggs in the street doesn't give a monkey's about bit rates and all the other paraphernalia that the 'professionals' go endlessly on about. All he/she sees is a reasonable picture or not.


As far as peeking is concerned, I'm still trying to find that in the Go App. Zebras? I'm not ready for an African safari as yet.

Joe bloggs needs to find a new job, potato videos sucked and are devaluing the market for us professionals.

Want to fly hobby, absolutely fine, I started there.
But I'm also a working professional that has seen this crap devalue music, and now video and photography.

As to your second point, if you don't understand that peaking and zebra is an industry standard, why do you even own a camera?

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[bluelight.support]

Not being funny but the domain gives it away inspire pilots hahaahaha

 

[AMGPilot]

Yes, but most of us aren't professionals. Joe Bloggs in the street doesn't give a monkey's about bit rates and all the other paraphernalia that the 'professionals' go endlessly on about. All he/she sees is a reasonable picture or not.

The Yuneec H does have histogram and you can follow a moving object without trying to get a finger to move across a screen with the left hand whilst trying to control with the other hand.

As far as peeking is concerned, I'm still trying to find that in the Go App. Zebras? I'm not ready for an African safari as yet.

Think too many on here are addicted to DJI and Apple. Try others' offerings with an open mind, you may be surprised.

The yuneec offerings are garbage. I've flown then and used them the CGO3+ is a joke of a camera, Poor data rate, a lens made by fisher price and engineered by Mr. Magoo. it's got six rotors but that's it. its not for pro or even amateur level shooting

 

[ChrisRL]

I'd like to add, without prejudice, that as a pro I need to stay on top of all the gear out there, not just from DJI. So when a pro says such-and-so doesn't work too well, this is a little different than if a rec pilot says the same thing. Usually this means the pro has sunk tens of thousands of dollars into all kinds of drones, to stay on top of the equipment game. And has flown or shot the equipment personally, and tested it against his or her go-to gear before having any kind of opinion at all.
I had my 107 license when the FAA first put it out, am a private pilot as well as an AMA member since 1999, and a pro DP and editor (day job) since the 70's.
Believe me. The pro in this thread BS's thee not. There is zero reason for him to do that.

Yuneec? Good company. They're hyping their stuff as much as anybody who has stuff for sale. Their cameras are their weak point, because it takes a lot of resources to get great at camera building. Witness DJI's attainment of major shareholdings of Hasselblad, and through Hasselblad, access to Fujifilm technology.

Will anybody notice the difference? Depends. Most people who pay me more than a few hundred dollars for "a few shots" know the difference. For work, I run 4k DCI and UHD cameras from Red, Black Magic, Panasonic, Sony, GoPro, Nikon, Canon and DJI. They're all different, like cutlery on a table. Only a tyro thinks one tool will work perfectly as a knife, fork and spoon. Or one vehicle works best as a truck, a limo, and a race car. Same thing for the drones themselves, from Freefly to DJI, no pro flies only one drone.

I also own aerial HD cameras from Yuneec, Walkera, Mi, Hubsan, even Micro Drone and all the Banggood, Bangluck and the usual Chinese suspects, plus a few from Eastern Europe that looked promising.
Guess why they aren't used in a pro setting.


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[HarvestMoon]

Joe bloggs needs to find a new job, potato videos sucked and are devaluing the market for us professionals.

Want to fly hobby, absolutely fine, I started there.
But I'm also a working professional that has seen this crap devalue music, and now video and photography.

InspirePilots mobile app

I am coming into this as a photographer running a portrait studio (and not yet ever flying a uav) so I have no comments on which unit is better. However I agree that Joe Blogger or in my industry the fauxtographers are devaluing professional products. Every yahoo thinks they can buy a cheap camera, push the button and call themselves a professional. Doing a professional job requires a lot of hard work to learn the craft and really good equipment to create professional results.

People always say the camera doesn't matter it is the photographer but this isn't true. For you give someone off the street a professional camera it is unlikely that you will get a great shot but it's the same on the other hand. You give a professional a piece of inferior equipment (read potato [emoji6]) and you will get something that could have been a great shot that looks like it was produced by a potato.

So when the real professionals say something is fine for hobby but won't stand up to professional work listen to them. Don't produce something substandard and pass it off as professional because that is what is truly devaluing our industries.


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[EDDSkitz]

Far be it from me to tell someone they can't break into an industry... but far too many never progress, and you see tons of content being sold with rolling shutter, poor motion blur (cinematic bruh), and half cooked "angles".

The worst part is, the consumers of this "media" don't really know any better, and they assume that potato is what you get when so many do it.
What they don't realize is that they are only hurting themselves. Seen so many posts about how nobody wants to pay the usual rates anymore... well, that's because those same people undercharged for poor quality work.

Everyone starts somewhere, but starting implies progression.

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[HarvestMoon]

Absolutely everyone deserves a chance to get started. I look back on our first work and it is poor. Truthfully my wife is the great photographer and I am the technical support. She is really talented and can see the shot where I have to work at it. But to start this as a job there should be a minimum level of skill which is lacking in many. Then you add the consumer that doesn't know better or just doesn't care because cheap is "good enough". And you end up in the situation that the people trying to make a legitimate living find it difficult. I'm lucky as I have another job where I make a living as it would be difficult on our studio income.


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[giumick]

Well point taken on the lower level stuff lads so thanks for the input. Seems knowone has flown the higher level stuff though. I knew the yuneec H has camera issues and its the reason didnt look at one. I use a hero 4 black for low level stuff. We wanted a camera that is entry level professional at the end of the day and thats why we got the x5r. The conversation could wander all directions if you spend more and go for larger rigs etc etc. As much as i moan the competition has to beat Dji to justify purchase. Ill look into it more but it seems for now im stuck moaning over software updates lol

Althought the SUA side of the technology moves fast the camera industry seems slower thankfully. They can pop out as many fancy new rigs as they want but as long as the camera is not wiping the floor with ours im happy.

At the end of the day its your footage that sells it as folk have said. Ive seen fantastic stuff from pilots of all walks of life and experience.

Ill keep looking and searching for anything that rivals as i hate one company dominating, long term it breeds in failure.

Cheers
Mick

 

[Drone_Video]

I'm a hobby user and I owned an H. I have an inspire 2 now

There is no way that the H is even close to the inspire in just about every way.

This is my first DJI product also if that helps you understand where I come from. I can't begin to tell you all the differences but will dive into them if any one cares and when I get to a real keyboard as iPhone typing is a pain.

I never used a phantom but my I2 flys awesome. Software is excellent also. And third party apps are great. My brother has a magic and I can tell you this. I enjoy it more than the typhoon H.

But I will say that yuneec customer service is so much better that it's not even fair to DJI to compare.

There is glitches with the I2 for sure but the benefits are outstanding compared to the H. I have a 4s camera and running in auto mode it produces results that are way better then auto mode in the H. If you work at settings and apply your camera skills you can get a good looking picture from the H but there are gaps.

Again keep in mind I'm a hobby user than uses auto for everything while I learn more about camera settings. I don't offer any work for free or for pay. I fly for fun.

I'm so much happier with the DJI magic and I2 than with my H. Setting aside the controller as I think DJI controller is horrible compared to how yuneec does there St16

I'm was a big fan of the TH but after a very challenging firmware battle and flight stability issues I'm thrilled with the DJI even with the poor customer service and a really odd shaped and sized controller design.


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[Casey53]

My beef with DJI would be service. I've have never seen a company hide as much as they do. Management hides in some unknown location in LA, and their service center and repair center is behind some locked security guarded gate, and then all the RMA red-tape email BS to get a repair rolling. Can't even take it in to them if across the street, you have to UPS it to them for $45.

I thought they were coming out of hiding with their "Flag ship company" store in San Francisco last weekend, but it is owned by Magic Sky USA SF DJI Online Store

DJI USA must fear getting sued or selling drugs or something the way they hide. At least Yuneec has a main store and walk-in repair facility were you can buy stuff in LA, or save yourself the RMA aggravation, emails, red-tape, and $45 UPS shipping fee across the street to get it into the DJI compound. Yuneec is far more visible and approachable than the trench-coated DJI guy on the corner saying, "Hey kid. Wanna buy a watch, er, drone?" or "Meet Guido "The Fix" Armone down at Main and 1st street with $45. He's got your warranty paperwork to send it in. Then hand it over to the UPS driver at the back of the porn store in Chino."

What a company.

 

[EDDSkitz]

My beef with DJI would be service. I've have never seen a company hide as much as they do. Management hides in some unknown location in LA, and their service center and repair center is behind some locked security guarded gate, and then all the RMA red-tape email BS to get a repair rolling. Can't even take it in to them if across the street, you have to UPS it to them for $45.

I thought they were coming out of hiding with their "Flag ship company" store in San Francisco last weekend, but it is owned by Magic Sky USA SF DJI Online Store

DJI USA must fear getting sued or selling drugs or something the way they hide. At least Yuneec has a main store and walk-in repair facility were you can buy stuff in LA, or save yourself the RMA aggravation, emails, red-tape, and $45 UPS shipping fee across the street to get it into the DJI compound. Yuneec is far more visible and approachable than the trench-coated DJI guy on the corner saying, "Hey kid. Wanna buy a watch, er, drone?" or "Meet Guido "The Fix" Armone down at Main and 1st street with $45. He's got your warranty paperwork to send it in. Then hand it over to the UPS driver at the back of the porn store in Chino."

What a company.

Allow me to adjust my tin foil hat a bit here... but having a Chinese company with the remote ability at surveillance that DJI does, of course they keep secrets. There's a super high chance that they are part of a Intelligence agencies of China.

Don't believe me? Look it up, they've absolutely put products to market purely for spying.

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[Mixchief]

Funny, I keep feeling guilty thinking we drone addicts are actually innocently acting as intelligence gathering Chinese spies and have for years thought we are actually facilitating their world domination beyond the financial. Conspiracy theorist much?

 

[EDDSkitz]

Funny, I keep feeling guilty thinking we drone addicts are actually innocently acting as intelligence gathering Chinese spies and have for years thought we are actually facilitating their world domination beyond the financial. Conspiracy theorist much?

While I'm a proud Tim foil hat wearing believer, the reality is, they have been caught as both companies and the government tampering with products and Internet.

I don't trust them given the way they hide and refuse to admit dangerous problems. That's why I own one, lol... if they do go nuts, I'll be the first one to shoot it, hahahaha.

Also, they really aren't going to get much from our drones that they can't get from Google, or hack our phone and computer cameras anyway. I'd be more worried about their market share and the ability to remotely brick our devices. Hopefully some enterprising hackers are working out side loaded firmware for these.