UK ATC notice period

[Peeliewally]

How far in advance should I inform local ATC of my intentions? What happens if weather is predicted to be no-fly? Location is approx 5.5km SW from Prestwick airport within Prestwick CTR (class D airspace).


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[Plingboot]

I usually call a week or so in advance to inform of my intent - they're usually very busy and just say to call on the day.

When I do, more often than not they've completely forgotten that I called previously. We're pretty low down in the pecking order.

 

[Peeliewally]

I usually call a week or so in advance to inform of my intent - they're usually very busy and just say to call on the day.

When I do, more often than not they've completely forgotten that I called previously. We're pretty low down in the pecking order.

Thanks very much. I don't have an agreed date yet but it will be soon. I'll give them a call just to give them a bit of notice.


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[MrDrone]

Unless you need a NSF/ENSF to fly on areas as per: http://www.nats.aero/nsf/
Applications for NSFs should be made with a minimum of 21 days notice. Applications for ENSFs should be made with a minimum of 28 days notice. In all cases, applications submitted less than 7 days in advance of the flight will not be processed.

 

[Simon Mallin]

Sounds like Troon or thereabouts. I did a shoot up there earlier in the year and Prestwick ATC were very obliging. I called about ten days in advance of the proposed operation with details and they said to call the duty manager the day before shooting to confirm timings etc. It was all very straightforward.

You may want to check the situation regarding the GEO NFZ - I did an advance unlock just to make sure.

 

[Peeliewally]

Unless you need a NSF/ENSF to fly on areas as per: http://www.nats.aero/nsf/
Applications for NSFs should be made with a minimum of 21 days notice. Applications for ENSFs should be made with a minimum of 28 days notice. In all cases, applications submitted less than 7 days in advance of the flight will not be processed.

Thanks. I thought if your MTOM was <7kg then you didn't need to submit a NSF request?


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[Peeliewally]

Sounds like Troon or thereabouts. I did a shoot up there earlier in the year and Prestwick ATC were very obliging. I called about ten days in advance of the proposed operation with details and they said to call the duty manager the day before shooting to confirm timings etc. It was all very straightforward.

You may want to check the situation regarding the GEO NFZ - I did an advance unlock just to make sure.

Just down the coast near Ayr. Good call regarding the DJI geofencing. I'll check that out tonight. Thanks.


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[MrDrone]

Still required for restricted areas in London ... R157, R158 and R159

 

[roninsteel]

Thanks. I thought if your MTOM was <7kg then you didn't need to submit a NSF request?


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That is the case, but there is a case for best practice, I personally wouldn't have any issues doing an nsf, as it's under 7kgs you won't be refused, and if you happen to be near any other users they even put a NOTAM out (prolly not tho) but best practice and cover all bases keeps you right buddy

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[Peeliewally]

That is the case, but there is a case for best practice, I personally wouldn't have any issues doing an nsf, as it's under 7kgs you won't be refused, and if you happen to be near any other users they even put a NOTAM out (prolly not tho) but best practice and cover all bases keeps you right buddy

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Thanks. Sounds like the best idea since safety is paramount and the close proximity to an airport. Checked today and it's just inside the DJI warning zone around Prestwick airport.


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[Peeliewally]

What would you do if you submitted a NSF request for a date in advance and then the weather forecast for the day of the flight is supposed to be wet and windy? How would you make changes if you need to postpone your flying? Do you call ATC on the day and cancel then submit another NSF?


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[jamesbastable]

From my experience ATC usually like you to call the same day as to not waste their time with multiple calls leading up-to the activity.

Therefore I call the same day usually a few hours before lift-off to ensure nothing is out of the ordinary and then we're always asked to call again just before lift-off and once we're complete.

Hope this helps!

 

[Peeliewally]

From my experience ATC usually like you to call the same day as to not waste their time with multiple calls leading up-to the activity.

Therefore I call the same day usually a few hours before lift-off to ensure nothing is out of the ordinary and then we're always asked to call again just before lift-off and once we're complete.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for your reply. Forecast for Monday (date of proposed flying) & Tuesday not looking good but Thursday & Friday looks dry and calmer.


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