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  1. Outta Control

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    How the hell are they going to enforce this and what if the owner fail to mark their craft. This is gonna be bad.

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    Drone registration is moving toward being less like registering a car and more like getting a drivers license — but easier.

    The Federal Aviation Administration's task force on drone registration will recommend that the agency require drone operators to obtain a single registration number, but will not require unique identification of individual drones, according to people familiar with the matter, including one member of the FAA task force.

    The FAA task force is expected to put out recommendations on Friday outlining drone registration, and this one critical detail in the registration process had been unknown amid heated debate in the aviation community. It was earlier reported that the task force would recommend that people who own drones weighing more than 250 grams (about the weight of a can of soda) register with the government.

    Since that news, drone makers, pilots, business owners using drones and others have questioned how the registration process should work. By far the most contentious issue has been whether every single drone sold and operated would require the owner to obtain a unique registration number.

    Operators can own hundreds of drones, particularly those who build their own, which could make registration an onerous process if it were required for every drone. Plus, many operators resell drones quickly to keep up with changing technology. Registration at the drone level would have raised questions about what happens when users resell, and whether former owners would be liable for misuse by future owners.

    The task force recommendations will make clear that a registration number would be tied to the person, no matter how many drones they own, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

    Drone owners would need to complete a one-time online registration form, submitting information such as name, phone number and address. Unlike a drivers license, registration would not require an operator to pass a flying test.

    Drone owners would then receive a registration number to mark on all their drones. As previously reported, the registration number could be marked in essentially any manner, from Sharpie to sticker. The drone owner would have the same registration number their entire life and would only need to revisit the website if they were to change personal information, such as their address.Before selling a drone, owners would remove their registration number, and the new owner would attach their number.

    The FAA declined comment until after the official announcement, which is anticipated Friday.

    The FAA established the task force to come up with solutions for identifying the operators behind reckless drone flights. Earlier this year, a drone crashed near the White House, and another crashed into the seating area at the U.S. Open. Drones can be purchased easily from places like Amazon.com AMZN, +0.13% and the Apple Store, and the FAA expects one million drones to be sold this holiday season.

    The task force is made up of nearly 30 representatives from businesses, associations and the government, including representatives from Alphabet Inc.’sGOOG, +2.02% GOOGL, +1.77% Google X division, Amazon Prime Air, DJI, ParrotPARRO, -5.26% GoPro GPRO, +1.63% , the Academy of Model Aeronautics and the Air Line Pilots Association.
     
  2. SultanGris

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    They can't and they won't, it would be impossible to actively enforce. It will only be an issue if you do something you aren't supposed to and get caught and they subsequently discover you haven't registered.
     
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    Here in the UK there is only compulsory registration for commercial operators but the basic rules have been in place for years even for recreational pilots. Even with all this, enforcement has been the biggest failing. Where there is little enforcement pilots will flaunt the rules.

    Up until now it's been the CAA that brought prosecutions. Recently if my memory is correct there was a case in London brought by the Crown prosecution service.

    I think here, the way enforcement will go is it will move from the CAA to the Police to prosecute. This is fine if the Police know and understand the law enshrined in our Air Navigation Order.

    Maybe in the US it will go the same.
     
  5. DrSeuss

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    I am a bit confused with the registration process for commercial purposes.
    FAA states,
    "Owners must register their UAS by paper if it meets the following guidelines:
    • Your aircraft is used for commercial purposes.
    • Your aircraft is used for other than hobby and recreation.
    • Your aircraft is greater than 55 lbs.
    • You intend to operate your aircraft outside of the United States."
    What is the paper registration?
     
  6. ringolong

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    You have to fill this out, mail it in (has to be the original paper), and post for a 333 exemption.

    More information here.
    Section 333
     

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  7. DrSeuss

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    What is the process to registrar commercially?
    1. Registrar for a N number.
    2. Then registrar for an 333 exemption.

    Also, where did you get the paper registration. Can I download it.
     
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  9. Michael Asgian

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    The 333 Exemption is the only way to get a legally acceptable way to fly drones commercially, correct? At least until the NPRM will eventually pop out, right?

    What's the gossip on the NPRM eta? 2016? 2017? 2018? Never? :) 2016 is an election year. Dunno if that influences things regarding this
     
  10. SanCap

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    April 2016.