Welcome Inspire Pilots!
Join our free DJI Inspire community today!
Sign up

Handwarmers for battery in cold weather

Your construction looks very similar to what i created and i think the velcro will create a gap between the plastic material and the airframe allowing air in. That is why i used elastics to push my coroplast pieces against the airframe. Yes i know the elastics are not as pretty as velcro but the elastics i used stay very securely.
Very good point gregdd!
We are all trying to figure out what 1.6 means and how to be safe.
I placed the DJI foamy's in (reverse) place on Sintra ( a printable/shapable/heat-formable substrate) to add a bit more insulation. Better than their solution IMO + I only need one set of DJI insulators for all my batteries so I can save a few $ when I fly in warm/cold situations. There is some good development going on here! Let's work together. There are other awesome ideas here to explore on this cold battery problem.
 
  • Like
Reactions: damoncooper
Yesterday I did my very first flight of my I1 Pro and the temp was about 34F. I had the battery in the copter when I left my apartment and I put it in the hatch back for the 25 minute drive to the launch site. I set everything up and then took the copter out of the car and set it in the inch deep snow. I quickly powered things up, performed the compass cal, then launched reasonably quickly to limit the time the batteries could get cold.

The flight went on without a problem and when I uploaded the log to HealthyDrones it indicated the temp was 57F at power on and then dropped to 55.7F as I was doing the compass cal. As soon as I got her in the air the temp started rising and by the end of the 8 minute flight the temp was 87F or 29C.

So, what this tells me is if you start with a battery that's warm enough and you don't waste a lot of time getting the bird in the air it should be fine as the current flow will warm the battery. I don't know that I'd want to fly with the temps much less that that as my hands got real cold and I'm not sure I'd want to wear gloves and lose the feel.


Brian
 
I posted this picture on Facebook and got about 75 responses everybody loved it!

Awesome! Than I should think of making an even prettier version to sell on ebay :)

Your construction looks very similar to what i created and i think the velcro will create a gap between the plastic material and the airframe allowing air in. That is why i used elastics to push my coroplast pieces against the airframe. Yes i know the elastics are not as pretty as velcro but the elastics i used stay very securely.
The gap is very small, I turned on a big flashlight and made a photo so you can see the gap, it's more on one side but it's anyway very small. It can also be minimized even more if I'll sew the velcro directly on textile material and not on the foam. I'll make some more test next week.
File_000 (7).jpeg

Yesterday I did my very first flight of my I1 Pro and the temp was about 34F. I had the battery in the copter when I left my apartment and I put it in the hatch back for the 25 minute drive to the launch site. I set everything up and then took the copter out of the car and set it in the inch deep snow. I quickly powered things up, performed the compass cal, then launched reasonably quickly to limit the time the batteries could get cold.

The flight went on without a problem and when I uploaded the log to HealthyDrones it indicated the temp was 57F at power on and then dropped to 55.7F as I was doing the compass cal. As soon as I got her in the air the temp started rising and by the end of the 8 minute flight the temp was 87F or 29C.

So, what this tells me is if you start with a battery that's warm enough and you don't waste a lot of time getting the bird in the air it should be fine as the current flow will warm the battery. I don't know that I'd want to fly with the temps much less that that as my hands got real cold and I'm not sure I'd want to wear gloves and lose the feel.

Brian

34°F (1°C) is not that low, it will be a an even higher difference when you fly at 14°F (-10°C) and also if it's a photography session, I don't fly around that much as when I make videos, and when the copter is just hovering the temperature of the battery won't rise to much. As you can see in this flight the temperature dropped even when I was flying, don;t remember exactly if I was flying very slow or what. This graph was made with a protector made of the same foil that Dxtrty used, in my test that material is better than 2 mm felt but not as efficient as the 5mm Balsa wood or 5mm extruded polystyrene

bat 3.jpg
looks all a bit complicated, i just use (PE or PP) closed cell foil. you'll find them in diff thicknesses; i use 3mm.
Add some double sided tape to stick it o t frame. i keep some spares in case i lose one.
When i go out for a flight i keep my Batt's in a seperate box around 20˚C and add a 33cc softdrink bottle with water at 60˚C (don't let it touch the batt's)
i flew at 5-8˚C outside T˚ and when i landed after 15-18min flight GoP app indicates 30-35˚C .
i made a new box lined with a Gyproc&tiles with seperations for each batt, (also for safety) so if i pre heat it it will keep warm for a while.
i always double check with a little IR T˚gauge during testing.

2 the Battmobile ! let's go !

Good ideea with the softdrink bottle with heated water :) I want to have a light solution for my next backpack, as when I'm with the car there's no problem keeping the batteries warm, but when I'm going to the mountains, hicking, I need to have something light, and so far the handwarmers are ok, they are light and they can be activated anytime, the bottle after a time gets cold and cold will be, on the other hand , the handwarmers can be activated after each flight session, when you open up the backpack and cold reaches to the other batteries.
 
  • Like
Reactions: damoncooper
i made myself these.
i made myself these.
i can not insert pics off of my phone and will put them up on monday. i found the core material that dji uses for the warming pads. the i used some cartonplast to make a "hood" and 3M dual velcro (the all plastic kind) to put it up. holds the battery nice and cosey.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Haven't tried cartonplast yet, I think that is also very light, have you weighted the protectors ?
 
I have had a couple occasions since installing FW 1.6 that I have received the 'low battery temperature' - won't start message with air temperatures of 2-10C. One cause of this is time of the ground doing various (secret) tests allowing the battery to cool (<12-13C). My workaround is that I have a battery with a weak cell that I use for pre-flight checks. I then swap this for one I have had in the DJI battery heater before flight. At the same time I put the next battery in the heater which will be ready at 20C at the end of a 10-15 min flight. The heater uses very little power and saves me having extra kit/boxes in the field.
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Editor
Haven't seen any warning yet about temperatures and flown at -8°C, but I always had the car next to me so all the other batteries ware inside the car, and not outside in cold. Usually with the balsa wood protector I used, until now, the startup temperature that I could see in DJI Go app was around 16°C

Was the warning showed only when the battery temperature was bellow 12°C ? 10°C ? or even lower .. ?
 
  • Like
Reactions: damoncooper
@ovisopa It is the core battery temperature (displayed in App) that is key. My motors have been prevented from starting with battery temperatures below 12-13C with FW 1.6. The lower the ambient air temperature the faster the battery will cool and hit this limit. Once the motors are running the current drawn will keep the battery warm. DJI recommends hovering for a minute or so to bring the battery temperature up to 20C (with obvious loss of flight time) before flying hard and fast manoeuvres to reduce the strain of the battery. If this is done you see less of the traffic light (red and ambers) on the battery cell display.
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Editor
Ok back to the topic of this thread, I think I'm going to put something together that has a black felt outer wrap and two perforated mesh pockets inside to hold standard winter hand warmers.

They last 8-10 hours and should help negate the concerns about sitting idle too long in cold weather with an active heat source. Won't use any battery power and should keep the battery compartment warm and cozy.

I have materials ordered. I'll post back when I have something put together.
 
Last edited:
So, you want to start with a Batt at 5 or 0 or -5˚C, put it in and fly? at start the 1.6 won't let you as i understood.
Keep in mind, in a wind/prop environment ...closed cell material is better.
Also make it really snug &keep gaps closed ; confined air is good insulator and overheat barier.
Anyway keep me posted with the 'fly-field' results at different C/F˚'s
 
So, you want to start with a Batt at 5 or 0 or -5˚C, put it in and fly? at start the 1.6 won't let you as i understood.
Keep in mind, in a wind/prop environment ...closed cell material is better.
Also make it really snug &keep gaps closed ; confined air is good insulator and overheat barier.
Anyway keep me posted with the 'fly-field' results at different C/F˚'s

If possible you want to have your batteries at 15C or higher before they hit the cage but it's possible on cold day trips the batteries might dip below 15C. Starting temp needs to be 15C before lighting up as you mentioned.

Having an active heat source can not only keep things cozy but also help eliminate the need to do unnatural acts before startup.
 
Just ordered a couple of THESE as they are getting good reviews and are now back in stock.
By my calculations you should be able to get two TB47/8's in there.
The temperature is programmable and thermostatically controlled.
Should be here on Tues when we are supposed to be getting sub zero temps so will put them through their paces.
 
  • Like
Reactions: damoncooper
Just ordered a couple of THESE as they are getting good reviews and are now back in stock.
By my calculations you should be able to get two TB47/8's in there.
The temperature is programmable and thermostatically controlled.
Should be here on Tues when we are supposed to be getting sub zero temps so will put them through their paces.

Very cool - er warm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Editor

New Posts

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
22,294
Messages
210,742
Members
34,534
Latest member
Udaipurescort66