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Discussion in 'Inspire 1 Discussion' started by StupidGate, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. StupidGate

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    This topic hasn't been posted for a few days and unfortunately we all signed NDAs so we cannot communicate what DJI did or didn't do to the firmware/apps for android/apple.

    With the weekend coming there is a group of us that would like to solicit situations for testing from the forum members that either did not join the beta or were unable to risk their Inspire 1.

    I'm not going to be longwinded here, just looking for some ideas so that all beta members that are going with this approach can consistently test the same topics/situations in the various locations we all live. This group has agreed that we are not as interested in the individual 'Bug Rewards' that were listed on the initial posting for beta members, we are going for making the Inspire 1 the best it can be (nice that DJI has allowed the beta).

    Some topic areas we have come up with are:
    Return To Home
    App functionality both android and apple
    Gimbal twitch/horizon
    Auto takeoff/land
    Battery life
    Stability - hover with wind, in-flight, etc
    GPS/Compass - Extensive review of the dropping GPS mode to ATTI due to compass

    The above is very vague as we want people to think and provide all ideas. We plan to get out over the next few days and test hard so the sooner we get ideas the better.

    Thanks all.
    James
     
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  2. britchris1

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    How about takeoff from a moving/unstable platform or vehicle? Thanks for posting this! You guys are brave risking your machines!
     
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  3. CaptainBadge

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  4. The Editor

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    How's about..

    Self adaptive landing gear function.
    Dynamic breaking adjustment
    Warnings and reaction to a poor compass calibration.
    Thresholds for IMU calibration.

    I am out being dragged around the stores by Mrs Editor at the moment so will elaborate when I get back to HQ. :cool::cool:
     
  5. CaptainBadge

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    Completely forgetting RWC (Return With Cocktail) feature!
     
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  6. IrishSights

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    As these were not on the list to be tested we can perhaps come the conclusion that these features are not in the up and coming update?

    Then again they can't ask us to test something that we don't have.

    If they did tell us they would have to kill us I suppose.
     
  7. boogieman

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    Brave No risky yes but that is the fun thing about betas
     
  8. sirnikolas

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    It's very nice of you guys to step forward and help Dji iron out all the bugs.
    Thanks guys!

    P.S. Can yas possibly twist their arm a little and perhaps ask them to display how many satellites the GPS is connected to.
     
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  9. Daniel Mascheck

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    I bought mine for inspecting AG fields. I had the impression you could select routes through way points and let it fly the course unaided. Well I hear after purchase, not yet. Then when??
     
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  10. PureSQNut

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    Hey guys I think the original poster was looking for situations where there has been issues related to one or several components of the Inspire, its controller and/or its app and things like component failure, flyaways, unwanted (not user caused) crashes, equipment caused issues that create safety issues for people in the surrounding areas of the flights, compass issues etc. Not a "I'd like to see this feature finished or brought into the offerings" list.

    I was not picked to test the new firmware, mainly because they just got my bird back to me from several weeks of service but personally I could care less about new features being introduced and hope that the focus of the beta testing is to address the issues that could compromise stability, reliability and the safety of the flight, battery live, signal drops, general functionality to the apps etc.

    These beta testers are not DJI and they are not the ones writing the code or creating the features, they are just the guys willing to take the risk to test the purposed software and firmware and help do their best to keep our thousands of dollars of investment in the air.
     
  11. CaptainBadge

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    Those of us not participating in the Beta Test were not privy to what was being tested. As POI was a selling feature of the aircraft many of us were hoping it might be enabled soon, perhaps with the forthcoming firmware update.
     
  12. PetePerrim

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    I've figured out that mine drops from GPS into ATTI 3 times after take off then it stabilises itself and is fine for the rest of the flight. This is the only issue I appear to be having with mine, oh, apart from drunken horizon tilt and twitch on the gimbal. Those are the only two issues I'm having with mine! Good luck boys (and girls?)
     
  13. PureSQNut

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    James,

    For me return to home has always been a smooth operation. Never had any issues. Here is a list of the main concerns that I have experienced in flight while using the Android application-

    1. "Motors Starting" displaying on app while in flight - I have had several occurrences when flying (not necessarily in line of sight, based on distance) where the display will all of a sudden display "motors starting" however it is obvious that I still have full control of my I1 based on active telemetry.

      Keys to continuously reproduce this (in my case) fly in either unobstructed LOS flight or partially obstructed LOS (Tree's) and head out past 1000ft from the transmitter. Happens religiously for me and have tried with different tablets and different TX units on 2 separate I1's.

    2. Application stops working- Application frequently stops working and has to be restarted. In most cases its just an annoyance and I restart the app and everything is back the way it was however sometimes when it fires up the HP has changed to the current position of the I1 and elevation has also changed. So if I was at 150ft altitude from original point of launch and original HP it will now display 0ft for altitude and try to lower the landing gear.

    3. Gimbal Twitch when flying on slow but broad slow wide passes on an object. This is while in free mode but not attempting to change position of the gimbal. I typically see this during these broad and slow multi axis and position flight paths where im trying to focus on an object and changing rotation, flight path and altitude simultaneously. (doesn't always happen but this seems to be the occasion when it happens the most)

    4. First take off I1 flight wandering - After compass calibration and confirmed IMU settings within parameter the L1 simply with increasing altitude to 3' - 4' the I1 will wander in a small to large square box pattern. This can happen even after multiple compass calibrations. The interesting thing is if you choose to fly the I1 even after it does this it does not appear to affect the flight (in an open area) and if you return manually to your home position and try to hover the I1 no longer exhibits this issue. The concern is that randomly that box pattern can be as small as 6" and as large as 20'.

    5. GPS drop - on warmer days "above 85F" (we have had a few here in central Cali over the past month) I have experience rapid repeating GPS drop while in flight but only lasts for a second of two and never long enough to change to to Atti mode however in both cases it was while doing low level flying (under 5') and when it happens the I1 wants to loose elevation and drop to the ground and is only saved by going full throttle on the TX to increase elevation. No crashes yet due to this as I have saved it every time. I have not had this occurrence at lower temperatures, possibly coincidental, who knows.

    6. Stability in wind - Overall it has been pretty good however a few weekends ago I was covering my sons Baseball leagues opening ceremonies, we had cross winds of about 5-7mph and and it held its position geographically while in hover no problem but I found myself frequently having to correct the rotational direction of the I1 as it constantly was rotating counter clockwise (with the wind). This happened also three weeks ago at the lake with 7mph - 9mph crosswinds.

    7. Histogram on Android. I have done some existing testing in a photo lab (controlled environment and lighting) and the histogram does not accurately and actively display the change of lighting conditions or effects of shutter speed accurately. Sometimes the adjustments are not displayed on the App histogram until multiple steps have been made, however you can take multiple samples of video or still images and the smaller changes are documented correctly in the recorded images on the SD Card.

    8. The android app as a whole has a lot of bugs in it compared to the IOS app. I borrowed my sons Ipad Mini and went back to several of the locations under as close to the conditions as the original flights (temperature, time of day, flight style, foal point of footage) and found none of the histogram, motor starting, app shut down, change of home point in flight etc.

    9. Offset horizon. I have had this happen a few times but have all been related to turning the I1 on while on surface that is not 100% flat. My fix has been simply, simply turn it off, find a better spot to take off from and restart it and let the gimbal recalibrate. My thought on this is that if the compass has ben calibrated and the onboard Gyro is functioning correctly shouldn't the I1 know its not on a perfectly flat surface and compensate for that? Not a biggie, just land, power cycle and its fixed. Just a small annoyance. :)

      I need to find the rest of my notes I have been keeping of my flights to get the other quirks and notes I made to reproduce them in further flights. I may still have some flight logs as well but have deleted most of them as it seemed irrelevant as my documentation and testing was for my own personal interest and OCD as that's all I do most days is test software and firmware for products we manufacture.

      Let everybody in the group know I say thank you.Although I wasn't picked to help I appreciate the effort you guys are putting in for the better good. Happy to hear that others hold the same thought of "its not about the money, its about making it right" as I have.

      Thanks again
     
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  14. Mazz

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    Please keep the first post updated. I will sticky this for a while and see how it goes.
     
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  15. IrishSights

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    Are you really sure that what you are asking and to be more precise the context of what you are asking is allowable under your NDA.

    Put it this way would DJI approve of what you are asking under this context? Just sayin'
     
  16. Eagleview Drones

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    Please let us know if they change the maximum speeds (in any direction). Like when they reduced the maximum descent rate for the Phantoms...
     
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  17. PureSQNut

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    Even if they do, these guys wont be able to tell you. They are all on a NDA. DJI will have to be the ones to disclose all the details.
     
  18. howard a griffin jr

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    That's funny. "Mrs. Editor"
     
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    I would so love to have ground station, follow ability, the ability to do a nice POI. Also I noticed in the app some of the toggle buttons do not keep their state, for instance I have histogram on but the button is on the off state.. I have noticed this throughout the app.
     
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    +1

    I believe the latest ios app fixes these toggle states
     
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